Did you read the article you shared?
It was brought up in more than one place that it may have been her attitude which lost her the job. Considering the number of people who are tattooed out there I think your comment of
Because: majority. The majority of us do not do that, NEVER WILL, and don't accept it.
doesn't really ring true.
You are saying that she suffers from "delusional stupidity". Fine. She may not truly get the issue. Also, if you watch her whole video she says she was rejected because according to TJ Maxx she didn't have enough experience. She's wondering how you get experience if you can't get a job. It's a valid concern.
Now honestly, I think her attitude is why she didn't get the job, especially watching her follow up video on it, but no where does she really seem delusional like you imply. She knows her tattoos are off putting for some people. I honestly don't know what sort of clothes TJ Maxx sells as I've never been in one, but I'm sure she'd be welcome at a place like Hot Topic or Spensers.
Also...You keep thinking that you are in the majority of every opinion you have. Isn't that also a form of delusion?
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123Guy (6204)
10 days ago
First, shocking you still converse with me, but that speaks volumes about your maturity and I truly appreciate that you can move on and still have discussions about these weird things. I mean that. Thank you. :) You are actually a good thinker and I appreciate being pushed like you do.
I tend to side with MAJORITY opinions, yes, they are easy to see and figure out because, well, it is the majority. Usually, the majority is quieter and the non-majority make more noise in hoping to up their numbers but that doesn't work.
The majority is not the delusion, because, by default, they end up defining normalcy, whether we like it or not. We could literally say everyone is delusional, but really, it would be defined in majority case:
The majority of people don't believe they are a tree.
People who believe that are delusional.
de·lu·sion·al
/dəˈlo͞oZH(ə)nəl/
adjective
characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition.
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sslssg (28125)
10 days ago
Thank you for the comment you made. I've said before that I don't dislike you, I just disagree with you a lot. I don't want to live in an echo chamber, as that isn't beneficial to anyone. I appreciate that you don't get nasty when we disagree. It means a lot.
Now....
You make more noise than most people here, so I'd hardly agree with you on that point. :)
So...you are giving me the definition of delusion, but you are ignoring everything that I said about the woman who you called delusional. I don't think she's delusional. She said that she knows that her tattoos are an issue. She doesn't believe she's a tree. I think she has a shitty attitude, and if she talked to me the way she talks in her videos I wouldn't hire her either, and I don't give a crap about her tattoos.
In regards to the other topic we've been discussing, and even this one...I will question where the evidence is? I mean you send me a definition which has the words "incontrovertible evidence to the contrary", yet when I've asked for evidence, and not anecdotes, you have yet to provide them.
Cheers.
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123Guy (6204)
10 days ago
busy ATM, but I will later deep dive the interest in evidence and get back to you.
i must have missed part of your questions there -- or sometimes I get bored and move on. Topics older than 2 days go sour or off path real fast and become pointless
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123Guy (6204)
9 days ago
long and short of it: the easy evidence is personal normal life experience itself, yours, mine, REALITY.... I used this specific story target as an example if the issue: crazy tatted wants job, goes south, although, yes, the full article goes other directions with its narrative.
Maybe it is her tude, tottaly agree. But the article props it up like crazy face tatted person doesn't get job.
I'm not going to award her revenue clicks by watching her silly tik tok or whatever.... it's very plain to see that she has problems.... problems mean not facing reality of situation... not facing reality means delusional.
Delusional is making life choices and believing you are above the consequences of it. That's not living in reality.
To balance my points and perspective, as evidence, I give you EXHIBIT 'A', the jury of our peers:
Click the little CHAT BUBBLE icon, 4th down on the left, and read how others in the real world are responding to the delusionary. It is very interesting and telling of reality vs non reality.
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sslssg (28125)
9 days ago
I think you are using delusional a little too freely here. I mean you said you weren't going to watch her video, so you aren't getting her words, just the words of news source that is interested in getting your clicks. So your evidence isn't really solid. My whole comment here is that I don't think she's "delusional". I think true delusions need to be diagnosed by psychiatric professionals, which neither you, nor I am.
Now I'm not arguing with you about her being out of touch, like I said, I did watch her, and I think her attitude stinks, facial tattoos or not.
I don't think that a "jury of our peers" is evidence either. That's opinion. Opinions aren't evidence. I never said you were alone in your opinion about her tats. I do think that tattoos are really popular with younger people, so their experiences are probably different than yours or mine. My own personal experience, which isn't evidence, is just that don't judge people by their appearance. So I don't. I judge people on their actions, and attitude. This particular woman's is pretty shitty.
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123Guy (6204)
9 days ago
well now I am interested in watching her stupid videos! :D You are probably right in my using delusion too freely, I can admit that is possible... still in my mind the word fits as defined.
another aspect is HOW do we define delusional or mental illness? It needs a solid definition, "Not admitting reality" that doesn't slide when the people want it to. For example, if 90% of the people stop facing REALITY, does this change the definition to fit society? I say no, we don't change these terms for the whims of the people, majority or not, because not facing reality is NOT FACING REALITY even if a ton of people do it. It is still wrong, "delusional", and unhelpful to all of society living with each other.
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sslssg (28125)
9 days ago
I wouldn't suggest watching her videos, she isn't really worth the time.
I think that reality though is subjective to a point. A person could live in a place where _______ is completely accepted, but that wouldn't be the same reality for someone living somewhere else.
I also think that in many instances reality needs to change as not having change is just a static existence. Does that mean that I am saying that people with tattoos all over their face, and have shitty attitudes should get hired for any job they want....no. But I am saying that if we never changed reality, we would still be living in caves. The majority isn't always right. Neither is the minority. Disagreeing with each other is fine, but feeling a certain way about something doesn't make it reality, and it doesn't make it right. That goes for everyone, and everything.
As for how we define mental illness and delusions? Well, there are people who go to schools, and get doctorates in that sort of thing. I usually defer to them.
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