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Anyone notice this about Charlie Wooster?


During the first season it was stated often that Charlie Wooster knew a lot about doctoring. An example is The Cliff Grundy Story, but there are others.

Later this was dropped completely and was never mentioned again (like Hawks' wife). For example, in The Wagon Train Mutiny, Hale gets knifed and it shows Hawks bandaging the wound with Wooster looking on.

I always thought that was a pretty cool angle for Wooster's character, and was disappointed when it was taken away from him and he was relegated to nothing but comic relief.

It would be nice if any other fans would be (even a little) interested and would want to discuss some of these things...I have a lotta unanswered threads on this board.

Oh well, I'll just have to enjoy having these conversations with myself.

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A lot of the characters background and skills seemed to be changed over the seasons. I think the lack of continuity may have been due to different writers, who weren't familiar with the details inserted into earlier scripts. It seems to me that Charlie didn't become the comic relief character until about halfway through the first season. If I remember correctly, he didn't have a beard for the first few shows.

Bill Hawk's wife, Emily, vanished during the first season. I guess she was considered an unnecessary character, and her being gone allowed Bill to become a full fledged crew member, rather than a passenger with a wagon going west, as he was in the very early episodes.

One of my favorite episodes is Chuck Wooster, Wagonmaster, where Charlie has to take over the train after the others all disappear. The character of Charlie Wooster was one of the best on TV, IMO.

On a side note, Frank McGrath and Terry Wilson were both stunt men who worked with John Ford a lot before getting into acting. Both appeared in the 1956 classic "The Searchers." In the scene where they uncover the grave of the grave of the Comanche brave, it is Frank McGrath's clean shaven face which is revealed when they remove the rock. I always thought that in that scene, he looked a lot like Victor Jory.

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Hawks' character was one that changed considerably. In the episode The Ruth Owens Story (S1, E4) Hawks is one of the lynch mob demanding Dean Stockwell be hanged, and Major Adams punches him out!

But his skill as a stuntman was pretty high. In one episode Hawks is being chased, he downs his horse and uses it as a shield while firing, then he slings a leg over the downed horse as it's rising and goes up with it in one motion and gallops away. It was a pretty cool stunt. I have a couple other topics about Hawks, but I'll post those in another of your threads here.

One of the great things about the Wooster character is how he has no qualms about standing up to Major Adams (or Chris Hale) in support of someone. He does it frequently and he's typically right in the end. Which lead to a surprise in The Madame Sagittarius Story when he initially spoke out *against* her joining the train. "She's a hussy and a minx! She'll do nothing but disrupt this train!" He changes his tune later, but his first response wasn't expected.

But I see him pop up in a lotta films before WT aired, I've seen him in Ford films but also in many others. He also did repeat work for directors William Wellman, Anthony Mann, and John Farrow.

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Robert Horton mentioned it at a Lone Pine Film Festival and I think it's been mentioned on a thread here, but after a few episodes he wrote a biography of Flint McCollough for the writers to follow. This way they would keep his character consistent and not have the Charlie Wooster situation you mention (cook/"doctor" to cook/clown) happen to Flint. He even bought his own horse to use in the show to help with the overall effect of establishing the character.

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I recall seeing that as well....it stated Flint was from Virginia, and as such fought for the confederacy.

That Appaloosa he rode was *really* nice. I also read its name was Stormy Night.

I love the way he sometimes mounted, leaping up and planting a foot into the stirrup. I've seen Robert Fuller do it, and Steve McQueen did it pretty much every time he mounted in Wanted Dead or Alive. Robert Crawford, Jr. did it pretty well too. Gene Autry did it as well, but he would run at full speed, leap, and plant the foot in the stirrup...it was impressive.

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I enjoy the way all those guys mount their horses, and I've always thought that Robert Fuller rides like he was born in the saddle. But have you seen Kirk Douglas leap onto his saddle in "Gunfight at the OK Corral? He did it like an old fashioned high jump, approaching the horse from the left rear, and swinging his right leg over the saddle and landing perfectly in the seat! From what I've read, Mr Douglas was extremely athletic.

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Hello Ben, new fan of Wagon Train here. Only gone through a small handful of episodes so far and still learning of the characters, including Charlie Wooster.
I was intrigued to see Wooster in more of a serious character in the beginning of Season 1, but for the first time I watched the 2-parter episodes of The Major Adams Story, recently shown on METV. Yep, he was a very corn-ball character in part one where he was a new soldier under Major Adams command and getting his butt chewed out by Adams and "Sergeant" Hawks in Adams tent quarters. I laughed my butt off throughout that entire scene because Wooster constantly had his head up in the air while at attention and scared of Major Adams lashing him out. Brought back total memories of me while I served in the Army on my first week of basic training already getting chewed out by my Captain for being a total "screw-up" already and embarrassing the entire platoon as well as being bullied by the other soldiers. Back then it wasn't funny and I wanted out, but looking back now I can laugh at it, I was definitely the Wooster character, so that scene was a mirror of me at attention next to my Drill Sergeant...and scared shitless at the time!
I never became a "cook" (or "kewk" as Wooster pronounced it) but became a Quartermaster (supply guy) for the Third Infantry Division. I did well in the Army eventually and was honorably discharged for an injury I sustained while in Baghdad...wrong place wrong time considering I was just a Quartermaster.

But I'll have to admit myself after seeing that episode, I like Wooster's corn-ball character. And just recently purchased Season 1 on DVD.
From what I see, it's been 7 years since you wrote your comment, no more conversating with yourself. Hope we can write more in the future. God bless. Mark

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