Did the Barkley brothers ever have sex? - The Big Valley (1965) Discussion

[–] janet-conant 13 years ago

LOL, ROFL, LMAO...........I think there were a couple episodes that came close. Nick got awfully close in Ladykiller and Bounty on a Barkley.

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[–] roses888 13 years ago

I guess we were to believe these brothers were all virgins? It's hard to believe Nick never did have sex as he was so masculine.
Sorry, if my post offended anyone, but I can't be the only one that ever thought this. But why live at home with your mother and sister when they were in the prime of their lives?? Did rich men in 1870 live at home through adulthhood? Does anyone know the answer?

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[–] roses888 13 years ago

Yeah, but the Cartwright's were not good looking like The Barkley Brothers! Nick & Heath were really handsome - and rich! A great combination in any era!

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[–] pkryder-1 10 years ago

Adam and Little Joe were not good looking ? HUH ???

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[–] vestdennis 11 years ago

Actually it would not be unusual for the brothers to live at home (until married). "Jarrod" was married on one episode & was planning to have their own house built.

I believe each brother had similar situations. In those days the children took care of their parents (unlike today where we stick them in a nursing home) as it was the thing to do (no government housing or nursing homes or Social Security).

In many ways it was much better, although I'm sure Mrs Barkley could have afforded someone to tend to her every need.

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[–] js5905 8 years ago

But she didn't have a man; despite being wealthy and attractive. I've wondered if, possibly, the butler provided her service.

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[–] nkm56 11 years ago

With the Barkley brothers, I think their living accommodations was pretty well explained in the series --

The ranch belonged to Nick, passed to him from his father. This is stated early on, at the end of "40 Rifles", when Victoria reminded him "The ranch is yours, Nick, to do with as you see fit." And when Heath arrived, he was eventually made co-owner. So it was natural for them to live there.

Jarrod had law offices in both Stockton and San Francisco. While in Frisco, he would have living accommodations, probably at a rooming house. But when he was at the Stockton offices, there would be no need for him to acquire other accommodations, since there was plenty of room at the ranch.

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[–] floquick2 13 years ago

All three of them were on a first name basis with every "saloon girl" in town.

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[–] roses888 12 years ago

They preferred "nice" girls rather than the saloon girls. That's probally why they never got any "action". LOL!

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[–] floquick2 12 years ago

They just couldn't show any "action" in the 1960's. Certainly not with prostitutes. But the implications were there; Nick didn't get himself shanghaied hanging out with nice girls.

The Barkleys in general were portrayed as far more worldly than the seemingly perpetually virginal Cartwrights.

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[–] gbennett5 12 years ago

I can't believe people actually view TV shows and take them so literally
as to think that EVERYTHING the characters did was captured in an episode.
Of COURSE these young men got laid. We just didn't SEE it. By the logic
of the above posters, they apparently never went to the bathroom or
threw up because THAT was never shown in episodes. Good grief.

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[–] gbennett5 12 years ago

But it's more fun when posters use their brains.

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[–] Teri313 12 years ago

I agree with you roses888, it's just for fun. Anyway, I know that Jarrod finally got some when he married his wife. Victoria was hovering outside his bedroom door because she "wanted to make them breakfast." Haha. Unfortunately, his bride died later that first day back at the ranch when Jarrod took her out for a tour of the place. I believe she got shot or something. And I think Nick WOULD have had sex the night of his birthday when the ranch hands took him to the saloon and Barbary Red got him shanghied.

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[–] mikwalen 12 years ago

There is obviously a curse on both the Cartwrights and the Barclays ... as soon as one of those poor boys meets a girl, she is (a) killed, (b) dies of some sickness, (c), turns out to be either evil or not really in love with the Barclay/Cartwright in question and leaves.

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[–] floquick2 12 years ago

Or in Heath Barkley's case, runs off to join the convent.

60's primetime shows weren't much into continuity and only introduced new charactors when they really had to. The closest either show came was when they nearly married Adam Cartwright off to try keep Pernell Roberts on the show. He thought it was embarrasing that his 35 year old character was living with and still taking advice from his "Pa". Didn't work, mostly because Roberts wanted an African American or Native American wife for his character, and considering it was 1964, I'm sure the producers gave him a big "yeah, right". And then hired a blonde widow for the part.

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[–] Chuck-171 12 years ago

No. But we did do a musical called "The Boys In The Bunkhouse."

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[–] inthisway 12 years ago

"Did the Barkley Brother's ever have s e x?

What? do you mean with each other?

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[–] mikwalen 12 years ago

It's only a TV show, true - but bear in mind the time period in which it took place. Sexual activity wasn't out front and in the open as it is now.

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[–] taylorje 12 years ago

Jarrod was briefly married, so we can assume he did the big nasty.

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[–] MrMeanGenes 12 years ago

If I had a sister that looked like Audra I wouldn't leave home either.

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[–] bokirby 12 years ago

In "The Invaders" when Heath is speaking Spanish to Allie Kay, he says: "¿Lupe, tú estás aquí? Acuestate cerca de mí. Quiero abrazarte. Dáme un besito."

Translation: "Lupe, you're here? Lie down near me. I want to hold you. Give me a kiss."

I imagine Heath did more than kiss the mysterious Lupe.

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[–] powersroc 12 years ago

You have to remember that this was a wholesome family western show & that the 1960s TV shows of that era were pretty clean cut.Also,back then it really wasn't unusual for several generations to all live under the same roof.Especially if you are running a cattle,mining,lumber & fruit trees empire as the Barkley family was.

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[–] mkeawsh_2000 12 years ago

It's a show in the '60's. Just a show. :) Pure entertainment. Jarrod does suggest to the ex-con - the ending scene - that he took under his wing when he was found to be not guilty after 9 years in prison, to go get the pups pic taken at the local photographer's shop because the ex-con knew the woman there. The suggestion was understood with Victoria even asking Jarrod if it was all so innocent what he suggested and Jarrod says no. :) That is about as risque as this show got. Thank goodness. Too bad we still don't have that kind of morality.

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[–] DanTannaFan 12 years ago

In a family-themed show from the 1960's?????? C'mon....did you really expect them to even talk about such things, let alone show anything that would have seemed too suggestive? Ha! In fact, if you look back on a lot of those old shows, you'll notice couples (who are also parents) having 2 beds in their bedrooms.

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[–] bradford-1 12 years ago

An earlier poster wrote something about the Cartwrights being homely. Are you kidding? Do you realize how wealthy they were supposed to be, assuming each one owned a quarter stake in the Ponderosa. Real-life Cartwrights would've had to beat women away from them!

"May I bone your kipper, Mademoiselle?"

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[–] nkm56 12 years ago

Although they didn't come right out and say it (it was the 60's, after all), here were a number of hints that the boys enjoyed relationships with women. In "Run of the Savage", Nick is kidnapped, and when he doesn't come home that night, Heath comments that "maybe he found a pretty girl." Pretty tame, but there were no raised eyebrows, so it must have come as no surprise.

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[–] carolmr527 12 years ago

I had a crush on Little Joe. Greatest hair ever on TV.

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[–] skiddoo 11 years ago

This show is as suggestive as all get out. It is quite clear that the fellows not only get plenty of action but Nick is the most assertive and indiscriminate skirt chaser among them. His brothers tease him about it.

I've found that when a person watches a show as a child it is a completely different show than when one sees it as an adult. (When this is shown on INSP there are even words that are deleted! So far I've noticed they took out bastard and ass. I guess tv in the 60s wasn't as innocent as people remember.)

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[–] taylorje 12 years ago

Who knows what happened while they were in the line shack or off on cattle drives!

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