2001 had too much of a '60s influence in terms of lenses, "Swinging London", and the gaffering work by Bill Jeffrey. The movie would have worked much better if it had been made between 1972 and 1976.
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Not superstitious at all... I strongly recommend that you read "Do All Gaffers Go To Heaven?" by John Küntt, and "Religion is Real," by Sectual Mann.
Corpses are not resting, peacefully or otherwise. Even if only used as a figure of speech, "rest in peace" is an invocation of religious thinking where the spirit is actual rather than abstract. That our society can offer nothing more to a death than the wish that the corpse will not sleep badly shows how deeply superstitious and empty our society remains.
Remember, all spiritual thinking betrays a lack of faith in the reality of our existence. Spirituality is misanthropic.
I do not even wish you peaceful rest as you sleep tonight. I hope you have nightmares woven from the fabric of reality, where everything you do and think and build is ephemeral and pointless.
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Nice aphorism! And agreed. There's some powerfully anti-human aspects to virtually all religions. They go on the premise it's a terrible thing to be mortal and alive, and it's much better to be somewhere (and something) else.
Can't find a youtube of it, but in the movie HUD, Brandon de Wilde is consoled over his beloved grandfather's death by his minister. "Son, he's in a better place." De Wilde retorts, "Not unless dirt's a better place than air."
Religion is like a rocking chair -- a lot of work to get nowhere.
I made this topic to test and mock the limitations of Kubrick fans. Having watched a few of his movies, I've come to the conclusion that Kubrick was autistic and therefore unaware of the problems with the acting and emotional tone of his movies.
The passion his films inspire seem to come from a combination of appreciating his often (but far from always) exquisite cinematography, and from a literal mindset that interprets every incongruity as intentional.
If that is the case, Kubrick fans would not be able to tell the difference between an obvious joke and genuine ignorance. In this thread at least, that proved to be the case.
But now you've ruined it by saying something nice.
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I have difficulty picturing 2001: ASO as an early '70s movie. I mean, most of the sci-fi movies of that period were clearly inspired by Kubrick's film. It would mean that 2001: ASO is just one of the many that got inspired by 2001: ASO. It's just too weird. It's like saying Rembrandt should have painted The Nigh Watch in the 20th Century.
I actually think the fact that it WASN'T made in the 70's makes this better. It lays off the Blockbuster Appeal. It's not "Avant-garde" either. I think it came exactly when it was supposed to.
When you say more than I'll ever comprehend, are you saying I'll never comprehend that you know as much as you do? Or, are you saying you understand more about films than I'll ever understand about films?
You're the guy that goes on boards, using your MBA (As if that hold ANY weight when it comes to Cinema) and questions someone because of their age? Especially in regards to understanding the Evolution and History of Film. Whether it be Tarkovsky or Kubrick... Or modern filmmakers like Paul Thomas Anderson. I guess I should throw the Ivy League School I graduated from into the mix? Or the Director whom I studied under at NYU post grad? I mean, I wasn't born in the 50's! Damn it!
I simply asked if you could be an expert on something being from the 1970's unless you were from the 1970's yourself.
How many books have you read? And I don't mean books on building barns or landing on Mars, I mean real books, about Natural Childbirth and the Anti-Christ.
What do you think does hold weight when it comes to cinema?
Do you believe there are objective truths about the emotional reality of the viewer, or of the film-maker?
Have you ever showered with a father of three whilst listening to an audiobook of Steven Spielberg's genealogy?
Are you here to learn, or to try and act smug about the leagues of ivy in your school of money?
Doing your best Robin Williams impression from Good Will Hunting? My "Money" is earned, no Silver Spoon ever hit my mouth. Grew from Poverty, all I had to escape was Cinema and Literature. I don't come on these boards to boast I'm better than anybody... Knowing the History of Cinema and it's progress isn't limited to living through it. That's absurd. So you keep listening to those Spielbergian Tapes. They're getting you real far in life.
Have you ever told someone you loved them, with the intention of showing them films about exclusion and smug hatred of the future?
Who do you want to be when you grow up? A film-maker? A painter? A serial monogamoust?
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Kubrick is the epitome of Hollywood. Hollow, meaningless pomposity, used by elitist pseudo-intellectuals to claim superiority over anyone who isn't impressed by the dragging and autistically minded films produced by Stanley J Kubrick.
I'm still making up my mind whether you're a genuine contributor to this board or just an especially deviant troll. This post didn't help that investigation. Perhaps you'd care to show your true colors? You may do so by confirming you actually endorse the final paragraph of the post to which I've responded.
Religion is like a rocking chair -- a lot of work to get nowhere.
I'm still making up my mind whether you're a genuine contributor to this board or just an especially deviant troll. This post didn't help that investigation. Perhaps you'd care to show your true colors? You may do so by confirming you actually endorse the final paragraph of the post to which I've responded.
You talk like you're an untouchable... a VIP perhaps?
Are you a VIP? Or maybe it's YOU who is the MBA topper!
What deviance are you talking about?
You're asking if I think Kubrick films are loved by pseudo-intellectuals as a weapon of superiority... of course I think that. It's true.
Even if you personally enjoy Kubrick films, to deny that there are film snobs who waffle endlessly about insignificant nuance in his films is pure folly. This, I am sure, you are very aware of.
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Side note: your signature... about the rocking chair; since when was rocking back and forth on a rocking chair "a lot of work" ? What kind of rocking chair are you using? What kind of religion are you using?
Even if you personally enjoy Kubrick films, to deny that there are film snobs who waffle endlessly about insignificant nuance in his films is pure folly
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It goes further than that, when people such as me point to NON insignificant matters they get get all upset that someone is suggesting their arty tarty hero Kubrick was actually a deep thinker that has planted many important clues in all his movies to OPEN dem EWS
Are these the Harvard graduates that go on to rule the world and are the people Kubrick warned us to avoid?
What did you score on the state level management test- MAH CET? Where you even in the 99.99 percentile?
DID YOU EVEN TAKE THE TEST?
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This isn't about Harvard, or any other genocide think-tanks, this is about scoring 160 on the MAH CET, and getting a job as Content Manager at Oliveboard, or scoring 154 and enjoying badminton in your leisure time,
They are designed to calm people, and require little work
Perhaps now you're grasping the worth of religion. And its failure to address the real issues of actual human need.
Finding ways to keep calm, especially with little work, is a human need. This makes both rocking chairs and religion a great success. That is why religion has survived for millennia in the face of reality and scientific progress, and why rocking chairs are an essential part of every decently furnished old age home.
You've changed your signature now, which is also a success. It shows you're learning.
why would muteness preclude one from being an excellent writer
"Muteless?" Do you even grasp the basic nature of words? (Look who I'm asking.) "Mute" means someone who cannot communicate with words. Meaning YOU.
No, it means the absence of sound. For all you know I could be a mute, and it has no impact on my keyboard thwacking.
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I made this topic to test and mock the limitations of Kubrick fans.
That feels rather hostile. We're not use to hostility around here.
Or irony, or absurdity, or anything other than meticulous analysis of emotionally dead film making.
Kubrick is lauded as a film god by the kind of people who need to make film gods. Those who need to list and scrutinise and rank their emotional experiences are the ones who enjoy Kubrick. He's not great, he's just specialised, as are his fans.
Then again maybe everyone in this thread is so far beyond me that they recognised my obvious absurdity for the test it was and played along to make a fool of me.
I should have known when I saw Dr Strangelove that Kubrick is all smoke and mirrors.
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"Those who need to list and scrutinise and rank their emotional experiences are the ones who enjoy Kubrick." declares shatteredbluedreams, who lists, scrutinizes, and rates 1,229 movies he experienced while poking others who list, scrutinize, and rank their experiences.
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"Those who need to list and scrutinise and rank their emotional experiences are the ones who enjoy Kubrick." declares shatteredbluedreams, who lists, scrutinizes, and rates 1,229 movies he experienced while poking others who list, scrutinize, and rank their experiences.
You're not being honest. I've made one list of 25 movies. The Col Needham guy who founded IMDB made a list a few years ago, featuring his favourite movie for each year since IMDB started. I thought it would be fun to make my own version of that list, but I just chose a movie I love from each year, since I don't rank my movies. I could do 100 different versions of that list.
I don't scrutinize movies I love. Why slaughter the goose that lays the golden eggs?
As for rating 1,229 movies, that's true, but the bulk of those ratings were done over a few hours back in 2013. IMDB provides scrollable lists of movies that make it easy to rate many titles quickly. I've never bothered to rate the bulk of my favourite movies. Also, I've seen over 200 movies in the cinema since then, and I haven't bothered to rate 99% of those either.
I haven't ranked a single movie.
So yeah, I do think that approaching movies like an accountant is antithetical to emotional experiences, and the kind of thing embraced by Kubrick fans.
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shatteredbluedreams criticizes Kubrick fans for listing, scrutinizing, and ranking regarding cinema.........
"Those who need to list and scrutinise and rank their emotional experiences are the ones who enjoy Kubrick." declares shatteredbluedreams
Then makes excuses to justify his own listing, scrutinizing, and ranking regarding cinema.........
You're not being honest. ......As for rating 1,229 movies, that's true, but the bulk of those ratings were done over a few hours back in 2013. IMDB provides scrollable lists of movies that make it easy to rate many titles quickly. I've never bothered to rate the bulk of my favourite movies.
The OP doesn't have a clue on the meaning of honesty.
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That says it all. Thank you for admitting you're completely irrelevant, totally outclassed in this conversation. Please go back to your comic book movies.
Please.
Religion is like a rocking chair -- a lot of work to get nowhere.
That says it all. Thank you for admitting you're completely irrelevant, totally outclassed in this conversation. Please go back to your comic book movies.
Please.
Your snobbery is showing. Quote mining is not classy, classism is for fools and liars, and a comic book movie can be wonderful.
Unfortunately recent comic book movies tend to suffer from a lot of the problems plaguing Kubrick films, without any of the Kubrick cinematography to compensate.
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