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Anna, Columbiana, Red Sparrow, Salt, Atomic Blond, etc......


They all look like a light wind would blow them over, yet they can take out rooms of men packing guns and knives. I'm glad I didn't pay to see this junk.

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He did it right with La Femme Nikita, why is he trying to replicate that over and over but worse and unrealistic action.

It's like watching a small skinny man kick a bunch of MMA fighters asses in one go.

Your brain just checks out.

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Agreed - crappy film. They should have gotten Gabbi Garcia to play the part - she looks like Arnold in his prime - but I doubt she'd look good in sex scenes.

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Because Luc Besson has great taste in gash. He could care less about muscles.

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Oddly, my ability to enjoy films like this depend upon how European they are. For some reason, like the more French or Italian an ass kicking lady story is, the more it seems like an art film to me, and i'll put with a lot more sillyness.

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To be fair, action movies have been full of unrealistic shit for decades. Do you REALLY believe that Arnold could dodge all those bullets that got shot at him in the 80s and 90s?

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You mean like in Commando? Yeah, you're right. That was absolutely some silly shit, wasn't it.

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It really was, but it's par for the course for the genre. I can't count how many times I've seen my screen heroes escape unscathed from six guys unloading automatic weapons in their direction. Or today, just look at something like the John Wick franchise, with him kicking the shit literally out of a hundred guys. There's nothing at all realistic or believable about any of that.

So in an action world where absurdity reigns supreme, I'm not sure it makes much sense to call out women beating up men.

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Extremely well put sir!

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To be fair, Arnold himself winks at this in "The Last Action Hero." Not one of Arnold's better films, but it does acknowledge the absurdity of action movies. First the kid who watches the Jack Slater films is able to enter the fictional universe and observe its unreal elements. Then the Slater character and the kid return to the "real world" where Slater finds that there he can actually be critically injured and he can't just shrug off damage the way he does in his fictional universe.

I agree, the trope of thin, supermodel waifs who are unstoppable asskickers and can take out rooms full of linebacker-sized opponents has gotten more than a bit tiresome. But Luc Besson in particular seems to have a fondness for beautiful female characters who get turned into outwardly ice-cold killers, but are full of inner turmoil at all the violence and death and just want out of the life.

It would be interesting to see a movie about a female assassin that is more realistic -- i.e. she can shoot and use guns as effectively as anyone, but who has to use acting, her looks, deception, assistants, explosives, poisons, etc. etc. to avoid up close or hand-to-hand violence as much as possible, because she's at a physical disadvantage against larger, physically stronger male enemies. Maybe even a scene where she's actually losing a fight because something didn't according to plan and she couldn't avoid hand to hand this time.

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agree with you

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Red Sparrow's genuinely good. Salt and Atomic Blonde are both kind of bland but have their moments. Anna was just terrible. Never bothered with Colombiana.

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If you think Anna is terrible, then Ava would be trash. Which it is.

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Yeah I've seen Ava but genuinely forgot it existed;speaks volumes of its quality. Doesn't help that it had one of the worst edited trailers I ever saw.

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I think all three are (RS, Salt and AB) are great. I agree Anna was not great but because Besson used the "x time earlier" way too much.

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