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What will happen to Dr. HUGH CULBER ???
ADMIRAL JANEWAY vs CAPTAIN BURNHAM (Zora's interest in Audrey Hepburn & Doris Day)
Joe's character vs Finn's
Charlemagne WTF??? seems Zubak is more like RASPUTIN
Seeing Zubak in her Dream/ BEETS vs COBALT MINING ???
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REVIEWS of S4 EPISODE 6
Jodie Foster reveals some **SPOILER INFO INSIDE*** Regarding Ep. 6
PREDICTIONS for Ep 6 (the Season 4 Finale)
Episode 5 (is AVAILABLE NOW for viewing on MAX Streaming)/SPOILER INFO INSIDE: /Episode 5 Trailer Explained
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Here's part of another article:
https://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-zora-fate-tragic-calypso-ending/
Star Trek: Discovery Makes Zora's Fate Even More Tragic
[quote]Zora was forced to watch each and every member of that family leave or die. And rather than move on, she's imprisoned inside the eerily desolate Discovery, surrounded by reminders of the ship's glory days, cut off from all human interaction, and unable to escape. Worst of all, Zora tells Craft that Discovery's captain ordered her to "maintain position," hinting that Zora was deliberately and knowingly left behind - maybe by a deeply reluctant Michael Burnham?
But is Zora's Star Trek: Discovery future straightforward? The Short Treks episodes are canon companion pieces to the main show, but "Calypso" was written before Burnham and co. launched into the far future, creating some inconsistencies.
For example, the abandoned Discovery is the original, pre-season 3 design. Also, Zora's dialogue doesn't neatly align with her rapid evolution in Star Trek: Discovery season 4. That could mean the "Calypso" Zora isn't the same version Kovich just promoted to "sentient life form," and Discovery's current Zora safely departed along with her friends. Or maybe that's just our wishful thinking... [/quote]
Perhaps the crew created an AI BODY for ZORA like they did for Gray (which was also based upon the other one that's created for PICARD)? Or created a device that enabled Zora to leave the ship (like the one that they created for the HOLOGRAPHIC DOCTOR in VOYAGER ... which enables him to leave the MED LAB and go wherever else he chose to go)???
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In BLADE RUNNER 2049 the character K also purchased a device for holographic JOI so that (like the case with the doctor in VOYAGER) she could also leave his apt and travel around to other places with him.
But then the JEALOUS character LUV also deliberately STEPS on it and KILLS her. 😢😱💀
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THEORY 3: “Calypso” is still in the future and episodes aren’t linked
[quote]It’s also possible that beyond the aforementioned links, the timelines from “Calypso” and “Face the Strange” are not directly linked. Zora’s musical tastes and use of her “Zora Vision” POV is something that will evolve regardless and so the future seen in “Calypso” is still to come. To completely tie it into the canon, some explanation could be made for why the ship had to be de-retrofitted before being abandoned for the best part of 1,000 years. The Discovery team didn’t know season 5 would be their last, so tying up the “Calypso” loose end and directly linking to Discovery’s final fate probably wasn’t a part of the plan.
Whatever will be, will be
There is a nice poetry to the “dream” theory, so that is our preferred way to look at it. The most likely explanation is that we’re not supposed to know. “Calypso” is an intriguing (and, to be honest, beautifully told) look at the Discovery’s possible future. While it’s been hinted at in Discovery, the Short Treks episode probably works best as a fun “what if.” The sequence in “Face the Strange,” besides serving as a warning to Burnham and Rayner of the price of failure in their mission, also offered Sean Cochran and the show’s producers a fun tip of the hat to “Calypso” as well as offering an enigmatic hint as to its connection to Discovery.[/quote]
THEORY 2: “Calypso” is Zora’s dream
[quote]One new piece of information we find out about Zora in “Face the Strange” is that she dreams. Her first line to Burnham is “Captain, is that you? Or is this another dream?” Although we’ve no idea when this started, it seems the years of isolation coupled with Zora’s continued development have led to her having dreams. Obviously, this isn’t unprecedented in Trek. Data eventually evolved to the stage where he could dream, so it follows that Zora can too.
Could the events of “Calypso” be Zora dreaming of some company after years of isolation? It’s certainly a possibility, and dream logic is a good way of explaining away the inconsistencies, such as the USS Discovery’s appearance and the whereabouts of the crew. “Calypso” was an atypical, sometimes surreal Star Trek story, and having it be a dream does make a degree of sense, with Zora its unreliable narrator.
Zora wonders if she is dreaming in “Face the Strange”
There could also be a clue in the music Zora’s listening to in “Face the Strange.” “Que Sera Sera” is a song about a girl asking her mother about the future and what will happen to her. Is this a hint that the Zora we see past this point is her guessing about her future?
One major argument against the dream theory is that “Calypso” isn’t Zora’s story, it’s Craft’s. It starts with him and follows his time on Discovery and his odd love story with Zora. The story is told from his viewpoint. The only time this switches to Zora’s point of view is at the very end when Craft leaves Discovery and the camera remains behind, revealing Zora has named his shuttlecraft “Funny Face” and then returning to the bridge where Zora is again playing the movie. Although possible, the majority of dreams are in the first person. It would be unusual to dream a story from someone else’s viewpoint where you’re a secondary character. Then again, Zora isn’t human.
Who knows what AIs dream of.
Electric sheep maybe?[/quote]
FOUND THIS article:
https://trekmovie.com/2024/04/23/theory-did-star-trek-discovery-finally-resolve-the-calypso-mystery/
three potential possibilities…
THEORY 1: “Calypso” is part of the same alternate future
[quote]The first and most obvious explanation is that “Calypso” is a continuation of the possible future shown in “Face the Strange.” The Discovery’s crew are killed by the Breen, who succeed in conquering the Federation. Zora is then left on the deserted ship for the next 1,000 years (which would place it around the 43rd Century), whiling away the centuries listening to Doris Day and watching musicals—in particular, the Fred Astaire/Audrey Hepburn classic Funny Face—until she encounters the character of Craft (Aldis Hodge).
Zora’s musical tastes, the abandoned ship, and the “Zora vision” scenes would definitely suggest “Calypso” as a continuation of this particular future. Since Burnham and the Discovery crew are fighting to find the Progenitors’ technology before Moll and L’ak (and likely to succeed), this would mean that future would cease to exist, and “Calypso” is an intriguing never-to-be alternate future, similar to the outcome of episodes like Voyager’s “Timeless” or Next Generation’s “All Good Things.”
There are however some inconsistencies between the two futures.
Firstly, the version of Discovery seen in “Calypso” is the 23rd-century version, prior to its 32nd-century refit. Most notably, the ship clearly has the original NCC-1031 designation, missing the ‘A’ that was added in the refit. Of course, the obvious, real-world reason is that “Calypso” was made between seasons 1 and 2 of Discovery, before the show’s jump to the future and redesign of the ship. This doesn’t make sense in-universe, but Short Treks has some other canon hiccups, so trying to explain away the missing “A” designation may be asking too much. The ship seen in “Face the Strange” is also in worse condition, but it’s likely Zora had Dots available that could repair the ship.
Another inconsistency is that in “Calypso,” Zora tells Craft “the crew is away at present,” and says she has orders to maintain her current position, which doesn’t match with the events shown in “Face the Strange,” where she clearly stated that the crew had died. However, we don’t know what 1,000 years of isolation may have had on Zora. As a sentient life form, it’s possible by the time of “Calypso” she’s been experiencing some kind of AI senility or has repressed the traumatic memories of the crew’s demise. It’s also possible that she incurred some damage over the centuries, making her misremember the events.
In “Calypso,” Craft states he’s a soldier fighting the “V’draysh,” which is a bastardization of “Federation,” according to Michael Chabon. This doesn’t make sense if the Federation was defeated 1,000 years earlier; would the name still be in use? The name “V’draysh” was used once in the third season of Discovery, where it indeed related to the Federation.
While it’s possible that “Calypso” is a continuation of the alternate timeline established in “Face the Strange,” there are enough inconsistencies that we should consider some alternative scenarios.[/quote]
https://twinpeaks.fandom.com/wiki/Eat_at_Judy's
The scenes in Eat at Judy's were filmed at Eat at Rudy's, a restaurant at 558 E. Anaheim St. in Wilmington, California.
Eat at Judy's was a diner in Odessa, Texas.
You're welcome.
It's been airing all month on cable.
Have you seen THE STATION AGENT?
Michelle also has a role in that film as well (which is also a peak into the world of someone else only it also goes MUCH DEEPER into that world than this film does).
After doing a search to see which countries in Central Europe grow sugar beets, here's what was found:
[quote]Most of the EU's sugar beet is grown in the northern half of Europe, where the climate is more suitable. The most competitive producing areas are in northern France, Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium and Poland.[/quote]
and Poland.
Sugar - European Commission
agriculture.ec.europa.eu/farming/crop-productions-and-plant-based-products/sugar_en
Here's what a search found regarding COBALT MINES:
Europe’s Cobalt Supply Chain ― Key Facts | INN - Investing News …
[i]As mentioned, right now Europe mainly sources its cobalt ores, concentrates and intermediates from [b]the DRC, the world’s top cobalt producer, with Europe’s reliance on imports set at about 86 percent. The remaining cobalt is sourced domestically from Finland.[/b] When looking at cobalt mining in the EU, mine … See more [/i]
The Mountains that we see in the background of the PALACE give one the impression it might be located somewhere near the ALPS:
"The Alps form a large mountain range dominating Central Europe, including parts of Italy, France, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria, Slovenia, Germany and Hungary."
Geography of the Alps - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_the_Alps
Since HUNGARY has a DICTATORIAL leader, perhaps the palace is located there in that country???
Bravo redban!!!
Your message is brilliant.
Very well put and insightful !!!
ANATOMY of a MURDER is a wonderful film ... watched it a couple of weeks or so ago on TMC. Also found lots of really interesting reviews of it as well. The Criterion Collection, for example, was one of them.
https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/2155-anatomy-of-a-murder-atomization-of-a-murder
[quote]the truism goes, Hollywood gets everything wrong with stunning regularity. The rare exception is Otto Preminger’s Anatomy of a Murder (1959), widely considered among the finest trial films ever made, and maybe more universally loved by law students than by cineastes.[/quote]
Here's another link:
https://the-artifice.com/anatomy-of-a-murder-art-observation/
Anatomy of A Murder: The Art of Observation
[i]Otto Preminger’s Anatomy of a Murder is more than just a film dealing with the court system: it stands as a realistic and meticulous observation of American life at the time. It was adapted from John D. Voelker’s novel that he had based on a real story in which he was the defense attorney, and Preminger was careful to depict the affair close to how the real case had been conducted. The theme of observation is developed in every aspect of the film. The director aimed to observe and depict the legal system in a scientific and realistic way. In the story, characters observe each other and all are aware that the way they appear will build a specific image of them, and will impact the way they are judged in the trial. Finally, the theme of observation is also developed in the film’s style through Preminger’s observing camerawork which encourages the audience to examine every detail in the film in order to construct their own opinion and meaning of the case, like a real jury [/i]
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