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Trump is playing his base like a fiddle


What is it going to take for Trump supporters to come to the realization that their Messiah lies like a rug. How is Trump going to spin this one in a court of law??????

https://fortune.com/2023/06/27/donald-trump-on-tape-highly-classified-papers-indictment-documents/

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His base does not care. As long as he and them think they are "owning the Libs", they are perfectly content.

Case in point, the Supreme Court has effectively ended Affirmative Action and DJT is taking a victory lap having handed that victory to them due to his 3 Supreme Court judges being appointed.

They will take the lying and the grifting as a necessary evil of gaining and holding on to power.

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They will take the lying and the grifting as a necessary evil of gaining and holding on to power.


Projection from the side who are currently trying to imprison their opposition's front runner as a means of holding onto power after gaining said power through lying and grifting.

Everything you accuse others of you are actually guilty of as usual.

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[–] Miyagido (2211) a minute ago
They will take the lying and the grifting as a necessary evil of gaining and holding on to power.
Case in point, YOU. Clearly, a NON-USofA DJT acolyte advocating for influence in the Court of Public Opinion on behalf of a private citizen (DJT) that you have no vote for.
Projection from the side who are currently trying to imprison their opposition's front runner as a means of holding onto power.
Sorry to break the news to you but it is the following:

The United States of America

Vs.

Donald J. Trump
Waltine Nauta
Everything you accuse others of you are actually guilty of as usual.
I'm rubber you're glue defense doesn't even work on the schoolyard. DJT is too busy Crime-ing and Lying to even understand how he is impacting you in such a negative way.

Oh, I forgot. DJT suffers from NPD so he doesn't care how you "feel" regardless, as long as you send him money. 😂

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[–] Miyagido (2212) 11 minutes ago

Projection from the side who are currently trying to imprison their opposition's front runner as a means of holding onto power after gaining said power through lying and grifting.
You must not read court filings very well do you?
United States of America
vs

Donald J. Trump
Waltine Nauta


That is NOT a marketing survey or an opinion poll that DJT has to answer to, but a court of law. Your "opinion" in this matter is meaningless and your posts are ineffectual.

You can't even serve on the jury to attempt "Jury Nullification".

Try again.

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lol you talk such horseshit. We all know (you included) that Trump is getting railroaded. Please give me another wall of text, shill.

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[–] Miyagido (2214) 20 minutes ago
lol you talk such horseshit. We all know (you included) that Trump is getting railroaded. Please give me another wall of text, shill.
I don't have a train nor a railroad but there is the following that maybe, just maybe DJT should think about how to stay out of trouble.

https://images.inuth.com/2017/03/donald-trump-truck-image-for-InUth.jpg

|^^^^^^^^^^^\||____
| STFU Trump |||""'|""\__,_
| _____________ l||__|__|__|)
...|(@)@)"""""""**|(@)(@)**|(@)


You're welcome!

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|^^^^^^^^^^^\||____
| STFU Trump |||""'|""\__,_
| _____________ l||__|__|__|)
...|(@)@)"""""""**|(@)(@)**|(@)

You're welcome!


Ad Hominem Attack 1: appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect an ad hominem argument
2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made
made an ad hominem personal attack on his rival


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/832429375593213952/lblZ7HEj_400x400.jpg

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When did your name become Donald J Trump?

Do you need to make a call or use a Life Line?

Show me where I Ad Hominem attacked YOU?

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Did you think you can only make an ad hominem attack directly to the person?

https://media.tenor.com/56Dz3UM4CsgAAAAM/homer-lol.gif

You're not as clever as you think you are apparently!

https://moviechat.org/nm0874339/Donald-Trump/649dcb9f0a07862b4dedc058/Trump-is-playing-his-base-like-a-fiddle?reply=649f2344e9eca2502d5a4ca9

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[–] Miyagido (2216) a few seconds ago
Did you think you can only make an ad hominem attack directly to the person?
Yes. I do.

Are you an Avatar, Proxy, or Cut-Out for DJT in your responses to me, because CLEARLY DJT is NOT my opponent (and I use that word opponent very loosely)?

If a tree falls in a forest and DJT is not there did he hear it?

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Yes. I do.


Well you're completely wrong! Not for the first time either I'm sure we can agree lol

|^^^^^^^^^^^\||____
| STFU Trump |||""'|""\__,_
| _____________ l||__|__|__|)
...|(@)@)"""""""**|(@)(@)**|(@)

You're welcome!


Am I an Avatar, Proxy, or Cut-Out for DJT in your responses to me because CLEARLY I am not Trump yet you posted that ad hominem attack against Trump to me? Are you missing a piece of your brain?

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The original truck that I used on his post was labeled as "The STFU Truck" and someone else came along and renamed it with "Trump", lol.

Another obsessively deranged idiot suffering from TeeeDeeeSsss.

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It's like when the left got so collectively buttblasted by the right calling them snowflakes all the time that they tried to co-opt the term and started calling the right snowflakes at every opportunity in a real world version of the "no u" post. Or any of the countless right wing memes the left tries to co-opt and repurpose by adding a MAGA hat.

Akshually it's you guys who are the snowflakes we are not the snowflakes it is you guys who are the snowflakes


They're so fucking cringey it's unreal.

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Keyboard warrior!

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[–] Miyagido (2224) 6 hours ago
Yes. I do.

Well you're completely wrong! Not for the first time either I'm sure we can agree lol
Do you really NOT know what the phrase ad hominem means and how it is used? Are you THAT unaware of who and what you are?
[–] Miyagido (2224) 2 days ago
Look at this pathetic shill and laugh!
Preceded by this little Gem.
[–] Miyagido (2224) 17 days ago
How long have you guys been using ChatGPT for your shill scripts, comrade?
Preceded by this little missive.
[–] Miyagido (2224) 18 days ago
Oh, look more faggot shilling from the faggot shill NorrinRadicalLeftie. Immediately discarded as partisan gaslighting trash lol
So where is it that I have demonstrated an inability to discuss an issue and resorted to attempting to throw low-brow pejoratives around in place of substance?
Am I an Avatar, Proxy, or Cut-Out for DJT in your responses to me because CLEARLY I am not Trump yet you posted that ad hominem attack against Trump to me? Are you missing a piece of your brain?
I am definitely NOT having a substance debate with DJT and then resorting to name calling him because I can't match like for like.

You on the other hand can't help yourself.

DJT is a Loser and too busy Crime-ing to even care about you. You don't even care about you. Why should I?

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lol you're such a faggot. That was an ad hominem attack. Joe Biden is a geriatric old smelly faggot. That was also an ad hominem attack. Did I need to direct the attack to Biden himself? No of course not, it just means to attack a person instead of their aguments. Faggot.

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I am definitely NOT having a substance debate


LMAO yes we're well aware of that!

and then resorting to name calling him because I can't match like for like.

You on the other hand can't help yourself


You seem to think you are winning some imaginary debate we're having in your head. Let me just set the record straight because you're very confused. I'm not here to debate you, I'm simply here to call you a shill faggot.

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[–] Miyagido (2235) 2 days ago
You seem to think you are winning some imaginary debate we're having in your head. Let me just set the record straight because you're very confused. I'm not here to debate you, I'm simply here to call you a shill faggot.
Wow, I am so important to you that you have a single-minded triggered reaction to respond with a pejorative?! You've accomplished your mission. 🤣

Yet, YOU can't vote for DJT.
Yet, YOU can't serve on a jury for DJT.
Yet, YOU won't contribute to the DJT defense fund.

But, YOU can call me a name or maybe a couple of names!

Today you WON the internet!! Please accept your 🏆

Please accept your medal. 🥉

Hopefully, you have a chest to pin it on. 🤣

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I CAN call you names.
You CAN'T provide a shred of evidence of Trump breaking the law!
Thanks for playing, shill!

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[–] Miyagido (2308) 36 minutes ago
I CAN call you names.
You CAN'T provide a shred of evidence of Trump breaking the law!
Thanks for playing, shill!
“It is better to be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt”

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>attempts to post witty quote
>fails to post any evidence of Trump breaking the law.

lol

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[–] Miyagido (2311) 5 minutes ago
>attempts to post witty quote
>fails to post any evidence of Trump breaking the law.
lol
Why do you lol at yourself??!! Odd.
From the Charging document "Speaking" Indictment:

Penalties for violating 18 USC § 793 (e) [Forfeiture of Documents & Fines, 10 yrs Imprisonment or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (k) [can include fines ($250,000) or imprisonment up to 10 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (b) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (2) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (a) [can include fines ($250,000) or imprisonment up to 2 years, or both and forfeiture of property]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (C) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (I) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1519 [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (a) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 5 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (1) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 5 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (a) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (2) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 2 [No offense] Basically, just aiding and abetting.

United States of America

v.

Donald J. Trump
Waltine Nauta

Defendants


Dartboarding all of the penalties of all of the statutes and mixing and matching Min and Max, some Not Guilty and some Guilty and I came to the un-magic number of 45 years in jail. Covid-45 might get 45!!

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>attempts to post evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law
>fails to post any evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law.
>is stupid enough to confuse accusations with evidence
>is likely a paid shill, Ni Hao!

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[–] Miyagido (2314) a few seconds ago
>attempts to post evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law
>fails to post any evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law.
>is stupid enough to confuse accusations with evidence
>is likely a paid shill, Ni Hao!
Not being part of the citizenry of the USofA it is understandable that you don't know that the charging document contains EVIDENCE that a crime has been committed.

When you play STUPID games, you win STUPID prizes. Miyagido, meet DJT. 🤣

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>still hasn't posted any evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law
>attempts to mock Miyagido
>still hasn't posted any evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law
>is stupid enough to think copy/pasting accusations is the same as posting evidence
>still hasn't posted any evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law
>claims the charging document contains evidence
>still hasn't posted any evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law
>fails to detail what that evidence is
>still hasn't posted any evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law

Massive fail lol

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[–] Miyagido (2315) a few seconds ago
>still hasn't posted any evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law
>attempts to mock Miyagido
You continue to mock yourself Miyagido.

It is okay to admit you don't know the difference between Evidence and Accusation. Here, I'll help you:

"Evidence is any information that supports a conclusion. It can be furnished by witnesses or derived from documents or any other source."

You done lolling at yourself or do you require more mocking to make yourself feel better? 🤣

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"Evidence is any information that supports a conclusion. It can be furnished by witnesses or derived from documents or any other source."

OK if that is your standard for evidence then this statement by NorrinRaddie's daddy is evidence that NorrinRaddie's daddy did not break any laws!

A corrupt sitting president had his top political opponent arrested on fake and fabricated charges of which he and numerous other presidents would be guilty, right in the middle of a presidential election


And this Not Guilty plea by Nauta is evidence that NorrinRaddie's daddy did not break any laws!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/06/trump-valet-walt-nauta-not-guilty-arraignment-mar-a-lago

Whoops!

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[–] Miyagido (2318) 29 minutes ago
OK if that is your standard for evidence then this statement by NorrinRaddie's daddy is evidence that NorrinRaddie's daddy did not break any laws!
1. Uhhhh, not my standard Cupcake but a definition. It is EVERYONE'S standard.
2. Your statement of, "A corrupt sitting president had his top political opponent arrested on fake and fabricated charges of which he and numerous other presidents would be guilty, right in the middle of a presidential election.", Is HEARSAY
Hearsay is one of the largest and most complex areas of the law of evidence in common-law jurisdictions. The default rule is that hearsay evidence is inadmissible.

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No that's not hearsay, that's an official statement by NorrinRaddie's daddy.

"Evidence is any information that supports a conclusion. It can be furnished by witnesses or derived from documents or any other source"



You need to brush up on your gaslighting abilities as they are weak af, shill.


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[–] Miyagido (2322) 8 minutes ago
No that's not hearsay, that's an official statement by NorrinRaddie's daddy.

You need to brush up on your gaslighting abilities as they are weak af, shill.
NOPE!! DJT's statement are Hearsay. He needs documents, actions, witnesses that he can produce as corroborating Evidence to validate his Hearsay, ahem, evidence.

Remember this would be adjudicated in a Court-Of-Law by a judge, and not the Court-Of-Public-Opinion, by MAGA and or people on the internet. 👍

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No it's not hearsay, he is on the record saying it. That means it's information from any other source that supports a conclusion.

"Evidence is any information that supports a conclusion. It can be furnished by witnesses or derived from documents or any other source"


Whoops!

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[–] Miyagido (2332) 3 hours ago
No it's not hearsay, he is on the record saying it. That means it's information from any other source that supports a conclusion.

"Evidence is any information that supports a conclusion. It can be furnished by witnesses or derived from documents or any other source"

Whoops!
I 100% affirm that DJT will NOT make that statement under oath in a Court of Law. Why? He can neither prove nor substantiate his statement.

Presidents don't make laws by ranting and making throwaway comments.

"Russia if you're listening" is DJT saying he was joking (after the fact), or being sarcastic (after the fact) and using the 1st amendment to give him cover.

He was suggesting a crime and requesting that his political opponent HRC be hacked by Russia's state sponsored hackers.

It worked.

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He was suggesting a crime and requesting that his political opponent HRC be hacked by Russia's state sponsored hackers.

It worked


https://media.tenor.com/1D5S8Qcl668AAAAd/thumbs-up-conspiracy.gif

https://media.tenor.com/kSHlPTzsI6QAAAAC/mickey-mouse-twirling-finger.gif

lol back to peddling your conspiracies and misinformation are you. It's OK you can just say "You were right Miyagido, I don't have a shred of evidence that NorrinRaddie's daddy has broken the law, he just blasts my booty so much I have to constantly lie about him to make him look bad!"
I won't think any less of you for admitting the truth. I couldn't possibly think any less of you as it is so we'll be hunky dory!

https://i.imgflip.com/35dmxh.png

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[–] Miyagido (2344) 2 hours ago
He was suggesting a crime and requesting that his political opponent HRC be hacked by Russia's state sponsored hackers.

It worked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b71f2eYdTc

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Oh look another post where you failed to provide any evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law. lol

Donald Trump has "actively encouraged" foreign powers to hack his presidential rival Hillary Clinton, her camp says.


Oh that's me convinced then!

https://media.tenor.com/1D5S8Qcl668AAAAd/thumbs-up-conspiracy.gif

https://media.tenor.com/kSHlPTzsI6QAAAAC/mickey-mouse-twirling-finger.gif

Well the Trump camp said she bleached her email servers, look here's a video!
https://youtu.be/TcmP6mjzxjY

I take it you are now utterly convinced of Hillary's guilt or do you need the BBC to tell you what the Trump camp said before you believe it?

https://media.tenor.com/sjqCVh4GiOoAAAAC/wanker-max.gif

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Hillary: Would you assist me with deleting my emails?
Tech: How many?
Hillary: Not sure but it looks like thousands of them.
Tech: What type of emails?
Hillary: Confidential, Secret, and higher than Top secret, so no big deal.

Can unscheduled records be destroyed without NARA approval?

In accordance with Federal law (44 U.S.C. Chapter 33), Federal agencies may not destroy or otherwise dispose of records without specific authorization from the Archivist of the United States.

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I'm sure NorrinRadicalLeftie is very consistent in calling for justice over politicians and their suspected Crime-Ing! I bet if we scour the post history we will find many many posts of NorrinRadicalLeftie calling out the heinous crimes of HRC! NorrinRadicalLeftie isn't just a partisan shill no way!

NorrinRadicalLeftie (4173) Some time in the past, no lots times in the past I bet!

Correct, HRC is a massive MASSIVE Loser for breaking laws and will eventually be found guilty.

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[–] Miyagido (2332) 3 hours ago

You need to brush up on your gaslighting abilities as they are weak af, shill.
Here's your problem.

You don't understand how the law works, you don't understand how Courts work, you don't know what a Search Warrant is, you don't know what a Criminal Indictment is, you don't know how to have a conversation and or an exchange, you don't understand democracy, you don't understand the truth, you don't know what facts are.

You play Stupid games on the internet, you win Stupid prizes. Don't be COMPLETELY stuck on Stupid!

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You don't understand how the law works, you don't understand how Courts work, you don't know what a Search Warrant is, you don't know what a Criminal Indictment is, you don't know how to have a conversation and or an exchange, you don't understand democracy, you don't understand the truth, you don't know what facts are.


lol no
I do know what a gaslighting shill and political persecution from a corrupt regime looks like!

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[–] Miyagido (2320) an hour ago

And this Not Guilty plea by Nauta is evidence that NorrinRaddie's daddy did not break any laws!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/06/trump-valet-walt-nauta-not-guilty-arraignment-mar-a-lago

Whoops!
Being that you must be from some Banana Republic and neither practicing law nor understanding jurisprudence in the USofA I must give you a pass for not understanding that Waltine Nauta entering a plea of "Not Guilty" is not evidence. 🤣

You do love playing Stupid games on the internet and winning Stupid prizes, don't you?!

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"Evidence is any information that supports a conclusion. It can be furnished by witnesses or derived from documents or any other source"


Waltine Nauta entering a plea of "Not Guilty" is not evidence


Penalties for violating 18 USC § 793 (e) [Forfeiture of Documents & Fines, 10 yrs Imprisonment or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (k) [can include fines ($250,000) or imprisonment up to 10 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (b) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (2) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (a) [can include fines ($250,000) or imprisonment up to 2 years, or both and forfeiture of property]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (C) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (I) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1519 [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (a) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 5 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (1) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 5 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (a) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (2) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 2 [No offense] Basically, just aiding and abetting.


And none of that is evidence either.

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[–] Miyagido (2332) 3 hours ago

And none of that is evidence either.
Oh well, that's cool. You have an opinion. Too bad your "opinion" like DJT's "Hearsay" won't stand in a court of law.

Care to try again or will you continue to double-down on winning Stupid prizes? You're getting pretty adept at it. 👍

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Waiting for the evidence shill, tick tock

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OMG look at all this evidence that the 2020 elections were stolen!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election

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[–] Miyagido (2321) an hour ago
OMG look at all this evidence that the 2020 elections were stolen!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election
Lawsuits that are thrown out of court, dismissed, deemed as frivolous and or nuisance are NOT evidence nor statements of fact.

You do love playing Stupid games on the internet and winning Stupid prizes, don't you?!

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"Evidence is any information that supports a conclusion. It can be furnished by witnesses or derived from documents or any other source"


Looks like your words are coming back to haunt you shill!

If the accusation counts as evidence then so does the denial, live with it.

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[–] Miyagido (2331) 3 hours ago
Looks like your words are coming back to haunt you shill!

If the accusation counts as evidence then so does the denial, live with it.
Miyagido, an "Accusation" is not "Evidence". Where did you get that little gem from?

You asked me to produce "Evidence" that DJT committed a crime. I gave you that evidence in the form of an excerpt of the Charging Document.

You do realize that DJT was arrested, detained, and arraigned. All of those things are done with "Evidence". I also gave you an excerpt for each of the statutes that DJT ran afoul of and the "Evidence" that supports each of those, along with the charges and the consequences.

Based on the "Evidence" presented in court DJT might get 45 years in jail. You are free to download the document.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/read-full-text-trump-indictment-pdf-copy-unsealed-documents-case/

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Miyagido, an "Accusation" is not "Evidence". Where did you get that little gem from?


Oh I just got little tidbit from here - https://moviechat.org/nm0874339/Donald-Trump/649dcb9f0a07862b4dedc058/Trump-is-playing-his-base-like-a-fiddle?reply=64afff57ff17037721bfaa89

You do realize that DJT was arrested, detained, and arraigned. All of those things are done with "Evidence"

You asked me to produce "Evidence" that DJT committed a crime.


Yes I asked you to detail what that evidence was and as yet you have still failed to do so, all you have done is copy pasted the charging document.

I gave you that evidence


No.

in the form of an excerpt of the Charging Document.


That is not evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law like I requested, that is evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy being charged with breaking the law not that he has broken the law. Do keep up.

You do realize that DJT was arrested, detained, and arraigned. All of those things are done with "Evidence".


What was that evidence? There I just gave you yet another chance to actually detail what the evidence is.

I also gave you an excerpt for each of the statutes that DJT ran afoul of


Objection! It has not been established that NorrinRaddie's daddy ran afoul of any statutes yet only that he is being charged as such. So no, no you did not.

and the "Evidence" that supports each of those,


No.

along with the charges and the consequences.


Yes.

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Based on the "Evidence" presented in court


What was that evidence, shill? Let us circle back to my first post to you today -

Miyagido (2332) 5 hours ago
I CAN call you names.
You CAN'T provide a shred of evidence of Trump breaking the law!
Thanks for playing, shill!


Still waiting for you to post the evidence, shill.

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-1240w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2016_23/1570956/160608-trump_thelid-1614.jpg

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What is this? Mr. Miyagi Vs Chuck Norris?

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[–] Miyagido (2332) 3 hours ago
Looks like your words are coming back to haunt you shill!

If the accusation counts as evidence then so does the denial, live with it.
Evidence counts as Evidence and an Accusation is NOT Evidence.

P.S., A "Denial" is decidedly not "Evidence". You're going to need something like, let's say an "Alibi" that places you somewhere away from the crime Scene. Or you have to prove that you didn't move the boxes "Walt Nauta", when there is video tape of "Waltine Nauta" moving the boxes.

Playing Shaggy's "Wasn't Me" and "Denying" or saying "Not Guilty" just means that your sentence (the consequence) will be much harsher.

But if you are DJT or Nauta, be my guest and try that line of defense out in court. 🤣

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Evidence counts as Evidence and an Accusation is NOT Evidence.


I'm glad we're on the same page and you have admitted you have zero evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking the law only that he has been accused of such. Massive L for you m8 holy shit lol

https://y.yarn.co/1b11d908-ec99-47cf-8ec7-212eb3a8651b_text.gif

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NorrinRaddie's attempt at posting evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy's guilt -

Penalties for violating 18 USC § 793 (e) [Forfeiture of Documents & Fines, 10 yrs Imprisonment or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (k) [can include fines ($250,000) or imprisonment up to 10 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (b) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (2) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (a) [can include fines ($250,000) or imprisonment up to 2 years, or both and forfeiture of property]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (C) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1512 (I) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1519 [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (a) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 5 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (1) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 5 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (a) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 1001 (2) [can include fines or imprisonment up to 20 years, or both]
Penalties for violating 18 USC § 2 [No offense] Basically, just aiding and abetting.


NorrinRaddie's attempt at an insult -

It is okay to admit you don't know the difference between Evidence and Accusation.


Irony, look it up.

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Why do you lol at yourself??!! Odd.


Why do you post misinformation, lies and disinformation? I find that odd.

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just watch the trial knuckelhead

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[–] Miyagido (2944) 10 months ago

Why do you post misinformation, lies and disinformation? I find that odd.
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[–] yatzo376 (7463) 10 months ago
just watch the trial knuckelhead
You called Miyagido a knucklehead and to watch the trial BUT now we realize that, "Elvis has left the building".

I resurrected this thread because of conviction. So many of these DJT acolytes try to deflect, deflate, distract the facts towards their own calculated and coordinated chaos.

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[–] Miyagido (2354) 11 hours ago
I CAN call you names.
You CAN'T provide a shred of evidence of Trump breaking the law!
Thanks for playing, shill!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/read-full-text-trump-indictment-pdf-copy-unsealed-documents-case/

This Charging Document 23-8101-CR-CANNON/REINHART lists most of the "Evidence" that could be presented without redactions (Some are marked Top Secret and were being withheld so are not available for distribution or public view) that will be delivered to DJT for him to create a defense. The document also lists all the laws and statutes that were broken along with the penalties of which there are many.

Contained within the Charging Document are photos, text messages, calendars, audio recordings, recovered documents, witness names, interviews, etc. All evidentiary facts of the crimes that were committed.

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lol nice try. Just state that you have no evidence and be done with the charade.

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[–] Miyagido (2358) 18 minutes ago
lol nice try. Just state that you have no evidence and be done with the charade.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/read-full-text-trump-indictment-pdf-copy-unsealed-documents-case/ There you go ALL of the "Evidence" presented when DJT was arraigned.

This Charging Document 23-8101-CR-CANNON/REINHART lists most of the "Evidence" that could be presented without redactions (Some are marked Top Secret and were being withheld so are not available for distribution or public view) that will be delivered to DJT for him to create a defense. The document also lists all the laws and statutes that were broken along with the penalties of which there are many.

Contained within the Charging Document are photos, text messages, calendars, audio recordings, recovered documents, witness names, interviews, etc. All evidentiary facts of the crimes that were committed.

👍👌

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Still waiting for you to post said evidence. You fail.

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[–] Miyagido (2360) a minute ago
Still waiting for you to post said evidence. You fail.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/read-full-text-trump-indictment-pdf-copy-unsealed-documents-case/ There you go ALL of the "Evidence" presented when DJT was arraigned.

If you are asking me to type the contents of the document, "Why would I need to do that"?

If you can't access the link, just say so. 😂

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Yes I know what the accusations are and the accusations have been denied. You do know what a Not Guilty plea means don't you? That means that the status of whether laws were broken have yet to be determined. What you posted is not evidence of laws being broken as that hasn't been determined yet. Massive massive L for you, shill

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[–] Miyagido (2362) 4 minutes ago
Yes I know what the accusations are and the accusations have been denied.
Do you truly understand how the process works in the USofA?

DJT broke the law or a series of laws.
The DOJ collected "Evidence" from various locations of the Laws and Statutes broken by DJT.
DJT was served with an Indictment containing that "Evidence" and he had to be surrendered over to a judge.
You do know what a Not Guilty plea means don't you?
Yes, DJT standing in a court of law before a judge has to enter a plea. That does not mean that he didn't break the law. It means that he is pleading "Not Gulty". If no laws were broken, he would not have been arrested.
That means that the status of whether laws were broken have yet to be determined.
The Laws have been broken it is DJT's Guilt that has to be determined.
What you posted is not evidence of laws being broken as that hasn't been determined yet.
Wrong, the "Evidence" of a crime, the crime scene, the criminals named, were all presented to the courts and a Judge.
Massive massive L for you, shill
Correct, DJT is a massive MASSIVE Loser for breaking laws and will eventually be found guilty.

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Do you truly understand how the process works in the USofA?


Why yes, yes I do! The legal system in my own country is very similar! L

DJT broke the law or a series of laws.


Have evidence of that do you? Present it then. Because you haven't yet :^)
It looks like YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand the American legal sysytem. NorrinRaddie's daddy has not been found guilty of ANYTHING. Not a SINGLE thing. In American law ALL citizens are presumed innocent until guilt can be proven. NorrinRaddie's daddy is an INNOCENT MAN currently under the eyes of the US justice system. L

The DOJ collected "Evidence" from various locations of the Laws and Statutes


That's the claim. Still not evidence of guilt and you have yet to detail a shred of what it supposedly is. L

DJT was served with an Indictment containing that "Evidence" and he had to be surrendered over to a judge.


That's still not evidence of guilt. L

Yes, DJT standing in a court of law before a judge has to enter a plea. That does not mean that he didn't break the law. It means that he is pleading "Not Gulty". If no laws were broken, he would not have been arrested.


You utter racist! Are you saying that the massive black prison population in the USA is because those black people are all guilty? After all if no laws were broken then those black people would not have been arrested! Massive fucking L holy shit.

The Laws have been broken it is DJT's Guilt that has to be determined.


What you have posted is not evidence of NorrinRaddie's daddy breaking any laws as that hasn't been determined yet. The CLAIM is that he has. L

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Wrong, the "Evidence" of a crime, the crime scene, the criminals named, were all presented to the courts and a Judge.


Oh like all that evidence of the 2020 elections being stolen, all their evidence was presented to the courts too so it must be true :^) L

Correct, DJT is a massive MASSIVE Loser for breaking laws and will eventually be found guilty.


NorrinRaddie's daddy lives unfettered in your brain, fucking your cerebellum on the reg like the alpha he is. But I notice you state unequivocably how he has not yet been found guilty of a single thing! What's the term for that again? Oh yes, innocent under the eyes of the law, that's the one lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccr_Of2VAAEifc-.jpg

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We are not going to be able to deal with a global warming which is a consequential single most consequential threat to humanity if we do don’t do it unless we engage more together not fewer.

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Yeah Bubba. That's some "smoking gun" the OP has LOL.

These bogus charges have only made Donald Trump's poll numbers go up. Have you seen recent polls OP?

Prosecutorial misconduct. Politically motivated charges.

Meanwhile, there is now hard evidence that Hunter and Joe Biden took bribes from China and Burisma. This is far worse and propaganda networks like MSNBC are trying to hide it or spin the narrative.

MAGA

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He is playing his base like a fiddle.

So is Biden and the Democrats. You don’t both sides lie for personal gain and growth?

You think the Republicans lie and the Democrats are honest as can be?

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Democrats honest? Hell NO!!!! No politician is totally honest. We all have to live with that fact. Having said that, Donald J. Trump has told more untruths and half truths than any other president to date. The man is a habitual liar. He was this way long before he became president. Trump has had numerous personality flaws for as many years as I'm alive and that is a long long time. I don't trust him anymore.

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There’s no way of gauging which president told the most lies out of anyone to date. We weren’t around for all forty-six presidents and not everything is documented. People like to pretend that the past was a morally superior time but the truth is there were shenanigans all throughout history and plenty of bad characters have ran our country since the inception.
You can say Trump is a habitual liar and i will concede the fact, that yes, he lies/lied. But to say with certain that he is the most prolific liar to date is not something that can be said with certain.

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With the knowledge that every politician lies and will lie we have to choose the candidate who will, NOT as some say be the lesser of two evils, make us prosper the most. Being “evil” is irrelevant because evil is a subjective term. Anything could be considered evil in the eyes of someone. A simple disagreement on an arbitrary matter could make one think the other is evil.

Choosing the candidate who will make its citizens prosper the most is the facts that should be looked at. Fact of the matter is people were more monetarily prosperous under Trump than we are under Biden. Trumps policies of America first and toughness on China were more advantageous to the American Citizen than the policies of Biden.

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Dems and the MSM played all of you TDSers for a fiddle for 7 years and continue to do so to this day. Completely programmable minds.

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MSM shows videos of Trump doing and saying dumb ass things; seriously dumb. Many of those videos are not shown on right wing media sources. Hell, Fox has lied to the American public just like Trump has and they are paying dearly for lying their asses off.

I do watch MSM and only believe what is shown to me in video and audio. Trump is digging his own grave and most of you right wing extremists don't even know it. You don't get to see all the incriminating things Trump says and does. You listen to talking heads who do not present all the information about the bad side of Trump. Live on in your own Trump world. He will have his day in court and he will crash and burn.

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Oh yes you are very discerning when it comes to the news as you have demonstrated!

[–] luvthepros (316) 3 months ago
Of course a police officer died as a result of injuries he received on the January 6th insurrection of the Capitol. Read about the people who died, including the police officer.........

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html


But the truth is very different to your claim. The only person who died as a result of injuries that day was a Trump supporter.

Multiple media outlets reported Sicknick's death was due to injuries he sustained, but months later the Washington D.C. medical examiner reported there were no injuries to Sicknick.


After being in the hospital for almost a day, Brian Sicknick died around 9:30 p.m. on January 7, 2021. Earlier that day, he had two strokes. The strokes were due to a basilar artery blood clot, which caused damage to his brainstem and cerebellum.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Sicknick

https://archive.ph/20210421150320/https://www.wsj.com/articles/officer-brian-sicknick-what-we-know-about-his-death-11619010119

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-of-strokes-after-jan-6-riot/2645278/


You believed lies and now you're telling me you only believe what is shown in video and audio? Where was the video and audio of Sicknick recieving injuries like you obviously believed? Months later they quietly correct the record but idiots like you just run with the initial bullshit story. Pipe the fuck down, you're as full of shit as the other TDSers here. Completely programmable minds. You believed lies about Trump then and you continue to do so as you are a classic NPC.

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Are you trying to tell me that officer Sicknick did not get injured during the January a6th insurrection? Really??? The police officer, Sicknick, died the day after the January 6th insurrection from two strokes which he sustained from injuries he received in the January 6th insurrection. This is not a lie so please don't include me when you speak of "programmable minds".

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Are you trying to tell me that officer Sicknick did not get injured during the January a6th insurrection?


You fucking retard yes that's exactly what I and the D.C.'s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner are telling you. If you had read them when I posted them to you 3 months ago you would know that, but as usual you TDS muppets don't care about facts.

D.C.'s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner said Monday that Sicknick's cause of death was "acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis," and the manner of death was "natural, not a homicide" .


https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-of-strokes-after-jan-6-riot/2645278/

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The police officer, Sicknick, died the day after the January 6th resurrection from two strokes which he sustained from injuries he received in the January 6th resurrection


Is he Jesus now too? Moron.


You are a misinformation spreader. You spread misinformation. You are a fucking shill moron. You moronic fucking shill misinformation spreader.

I do watch MSM and only believe what is shown to me in video and audio.


Show me the video and audio of Sicknick receiving fatal injuries then. Or is everything you say just a flat out lie? (Yes)
Post your receipts that disprove my argument or are you just going to continue shitting up the chessboard Mr Pigeon?

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Thanks for pointing out my misspelling of insurrection. Not sure if that was my error or the auto correct that screwed that up.

Are you honestly claiming Officer Sicknick did not sustain injuries at the Capitol insurrection? If you are, you are the one who is not informed.

BTW.....I am ecstatic that I got your goat up. FINALLY, someone is bothered by the truths I am posting.

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The following link says "The USCP accepts the findings from the District of Columbia's Office of the Chief Medical Examiner that Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes. This does not change the fact Officer Sicknick died in the line of duty, courageously defending Congress and the Capitol."

https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/medical-examiner-finds-uscp-officer-brian-sicknick-died-natural-causes

I am finding out now that Sicknick did not sustain injuries in the confrontation at the capitol. I'm glad to hear he was not injured. I apologize for posting misinformation about that.

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FINALLY, someone is bothered by the truths I am posting.


You haven't been posting truths.

I am finding out now that Sicknick did not sustain injuries in the confrontation at the capitol. I'm glad to hear he was not injured. I apologize for posting misinformation about that.


Yes I told you that months ago, you believed lies then repeated the lies. I wonder what other lies you have just swallowed unquestioningly? Lies about Trump perhaps? But I do give you due credit for admitting you were wrong about Sicknick, not everyone can own up to their mistakes so kudos for that.

Brian Sicknick died of natural causes. This does not change the fact Officer Sicknick died in the line of duty, courageously defending Congress and the Capitol


Of course it changes the lie they were telling people that he died in the line of duty as a result of being attacked because it never happened. Just like an insurrection attempt never happened on J6th no matter how many times you lie and try to call that mostly peaceful protest an insurrection.

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There are plenty of videos that show J6 was no way a "mostly peaceful protest". You are living in a dream world if you thing J6 was not dominated by insurrectionists. Many of those people are serving time in prison.

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You can be proud of this statement. You have it in you to be as good as any and I sincerely hope that we all place fact, reason, logic and truth before whatever else there might be. God bless

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Thanks for finally accepting that you were wrong. So rare these days...

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Wow I had no idea. I feel so exposed. So used.

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Hey I think NorrinRad smells and isn't very smart.

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[–] Miyagido (2944) 7 months ago
Hey I think NorrinRad smells and isn't very smart.
Of course I smell. We all smell. Some smell better or worse than others. 🫢

Now as to being smart about DJT? I'll leave that for the voting booth to determine.

What?

What?

You can't vote for DJT? Not very "Smart" of you to back a candidate that you can't or won't support. 😉

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Thank God that idiot is long gone...

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[–] SamNoyoun (4226) 6 hours ago
Thank God that idiot is long gone...
I for one wish MAGA cultists like Miyagido were still posting their inanity. Being that he wasn't a citizen of the USofA I had a hard time understanding just why he supported DJT? 🤔 But his postings being aired in a public forum were indeed revealing for just how delusional this global MAGA DJT infestation had become.

The more they talk/type/text/post the more they expose themselves. 🗽

I enjoy all of them outing themselves and I must continually thank Miyagido and his brethern for his/their service. 🤣

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their Messiah lies like a rug

Are you implying that he is a Messiah?

BTW, the audio clip is fake news.

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"Fortune" is just another propaganda outlet. Shocking to me that you are telling us to wake up, when you are the one asleep.

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Putin is losing the war in Iraq.

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God bless the Queen.

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