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Easily the best of this trilogy


2018 was too safe of a film, not bad, but not great.

Kills went full on retard.

Ends is sexy, mysterious, and carry’s a powerful message.

#Facts

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The whole triology is the drizzling shits just like every Halloween movie that has come out past 1978 and you all put the franchise on a pedestal because deep down you want to be Boomers. #Facts

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The original Halloween is a poorly made film though.

- Doesn’t look like Halloween time at all
- Boring characters with boring dialogue
- The kills are tame and nothing great
- The Score is repetitive without nuance
- Zero eye candy
- The ending makes no sense
- Sexy as a trash can

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Your comments about Halloween Ends are correct. Your comments about the original Halloween are so incorrect it's amazing. You must be a zoomer and not understand all those expectations you have of the original Halloween are based on movies that ripped off Halloween but never understood the thing that made Halloween a great movie was the suspense. Gore is neat to look at, but suspense sits in the mind much longer.

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The problem with suspense is that on repeat viewings it just doesn’t work.

But my criticisms on the overbearing score and bland characters and lack of Halloween atmosphere are legitimate criticisms. I actually used to like the film at a younger age but have become bored with it over the years.

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Stick to Friday the 13th and leave classics to those who can appreciate them.

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Lol. Halloween Kills has a ton of shots of big huge beautiful GREEN trees, haha.

You don’t pay attention, which does your credibility a huge disservice.

Hashtag facts ;)

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"because deep down you want to be Boomers"

HUH???

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As showcased here you are boomersplaining why boring is better and this other guy like "Stick to F13 and leave the classics to us" meanwhile Friday the 13th made 11 awesome movies and Halloween made one good movie by film snob standards that by this point is completely played out and like listening to Black Sabbath Ironman. Your Boomer Lover Hearts can never accept however that Gen X movies are way cooler than Boomer Flicks.

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Halloween made 3 good movies total:

Halloween 5
Halloween 8
Halloween Ends

All three films subverted expectations and went darker and made decisions outside the box.

The only Friday the 13th films that really took a chance was Jason goes to Hell and Jason X which happen to be the two best of that franchise.

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As a member of Gen X, I'd love to hear which movies you think are so awesome.

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they made Myers sexy, I want to sleep with him

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I thought this was the weakest of the trilogy.

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This movie was a disastrous misstep.

It didn't make any sense at all

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It made more sense than Halloween (1978) which gives zero explanation for how a man can be shot 7 times, fall over a balcony, and then just walk away unharmed lol. Just calling him the boogeyman is a cop out haha

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There is an explanation: Loomis' description of Michael. He has spent 15 years working with him, so I'm sure he knows what he is talking about. You must have hard time watching horror movies, because there can be supernatural elements in them from time to time.

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Just having a psychiatrist tell the audience that his patient is “Evil” as the only explanation is lazy writing and you know it. At no point does Carpenter even attempt to explain how this supernatural element works. The sequels had to do the dirty work of trying to explain this.

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lol. Your responses are so hilariously blind and hypocritical. How does this trilogy explain his superpowers? And the whole second movie had almost every character spouting about EVIL THIS and EVIL THAT.

Recency bias, thy name is DorianGay89.

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How does the original film explain his super powers? It doesn’t, Carpenter literally just shrugs his shoulders and expects the audience to just go with it haha, how convenient.

You might not like the power of the mask explanation or the fact that evil can be transferred from Michael Myers into a younger apprentice but at least David Gordon Green had the integrity to try and explain to the audience how the supernatural aspects worked.

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Lol. DGG said he wasn’t supernatural.

And he doesn’t need to be supernatural in part 1. Just incredibly strong and lucky.

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Yep

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How do you explain MM being Wolverine when fighting armed firefighters and an armed mob but then being weak and vulnerable minutes later fighting a teenage girl?

Oh, you can’t?

I like your username if not your awful taste in movies.

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I can easily explain it to you because I paid attention to the movie and wasn’t busy on my phone looking up pics of fugly women.

The explanation in Halloween Ends that you missed was that Michael Myers hadn’t killed anyone in a very long time, thus his powers were diminished and the evil inside of him wanted a new host because he was getting old and had sustained too many injuries from the previous film.

This is why young adult dweeb (not a teenage girl) was able to temporarily overpower him and steal the mask which increased his strength and tolerance for pain. The power of the mask was briefly explored in the 2018 film and would explain how Michael was able to get all of his ju ju back and sustain loads of damage throughout the film.

Back to Halloween Ends, Laurie Strode realizes that Michael’s evil is trying to spread and she suspects young adult dweeb is the new host so she lures him into a trap by faking a suicide attempt, the mask once again has super powers, this includes remembering those who have gotten away and being attracted sort of like a magnet to these victims.

Any Hoo, Michael Myers has worn the mask so long that he is intrinsically tied to the mask and he is able to track down his young apprentice and snaps his neck once the evil decides that he has failed so Michael puts the mask on (giving him more ju ju) and is only killed at the end because his mask is taken off and he becomes mortal enough to kill his physical body.

Do you see now? The mask itself is the key to the whole sha-bang and whether you like this explanation or not, it’s an explanation none the less.

Now explain to me how the original Halloween makes sense on its own? It doesn’t make sense, John Carpenter gives zero explanation for how Michael can get shot 7 times at point blank range and just transport his body like Houdini from the grass. The original has lazy writing, this is a fact.

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Not to mention most of if not all John Carpenter's movies are like that- simple and shallow.

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Shallowness is in the eye of the beholder.

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Lol. Sorry, I only skimmed your essay. You lost me at looking up pics of fugly women. I prefer men. Fugly? Maybe if they have a nice ass and a big bushy beard to disguise their fug faces, I guess.

Still, you don’t make sense, though. He killed almost as many people as Jason did in Jason X in Kills. He should have enough power to keep the lights on in Haddonfield for 100 years. You don’t know how any of this “killing people empowers him and the mask does too” BS works. And obviously neither does DGG or McBride. There is zero logic to it. What’s your fanfix for why they repeatedly claim he isn’t supernatural if he has all those powers you mention?

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He’s just an ordinary killer without the mask, but once he puts the mask on he becomes Jim Carey from The Mask and has super powers.

So you see he isn’t a supernatural being per say, but the mask gives him supernatural powers.

You’re welcome, I’m here all week.

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