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Damon never raped Caroline

posted 8 years ago by mymammakat
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So, I'm really exhausted by all of the rape threads on this sci if teen show. I can empathize with women who have been raped and brutalized, truthfully. What I don't like is your forum. Why are you all looking to crucify a fictional character for something that never happened on the screen. Why turn other viewers away from this show with your fantasy driven hate for Damon.
I know that some of you hate Ian Somerhalder but he's not Damon.
I'm just saying that there are better places to vent about abuse than on IMDb where some are just waiting to pluck out your heart at a moments notice.
Be careful about how you express yourself here and anywhere else online, also have respect for yourself and others. Sometimes words have more power than you realize. Be kind.

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[–] mymammakat 8 years ago

That's perfect. I'm incoherent and illogical. Sounds like what abusers say to their victims. When accused, lie, lie and lie again.
Sooner or later it will become believable, not.
The question is, why is Damon such a rapey pervert mf?
Answer, he's not!! And don't play dumb, you know why so many hate Ian, ugh.

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[–] orgine 8 years ago

I stand corrected. Your original post was only illogical (lacking clear sense or reasoning). This bit in particular: Why are you all looking to crucify a fictional character for something that never happened on the screen.

This post is incoherent* only, specifically this bit: "And don't play dumb, you know why so many hate Ian, ugh."

*(of spoken or written language) expressed in an incomprehensible or confusing way; unclear.

[–] TaylorBruh25 8 years ago

I don't hate Ian, really besides some of his interview behavior of the past, what's so bad about the guy?

Damon raped Caroline, he took away her fear and consent via Compulsion. Rape. There is no other definition.

I don't actually hate Damon, either o hate his story treatment more than anything. Which is how most of these recent Damon threads started, how he's portrayed storywise, which then blew out of proportion for various reasons.

Not a lot of people "spoke up" about this issue till mid-season 4, most Damon blame that on Damon "winning" Elena from Stefan. When, well at least in my case and I hope this forums case, it was brought because Damon was now being treated as a Hero. This didn't happen until about 4x11, because in 4x01 he was willing to straight up murder Matt in his part of Elena's death, which still portrays him as the bad guy, twistedly romantic to some? Yeah, but it wasn't called "good". Damon being bad is fine as long as he is called bad. This is nullified when Damon is portrayed as doing the right thing when actively trying to steal Elena while training her as a vampire, it's also the case where Caroline is slut shamed by Elena for sleeping with Damon, and acting as if Caroline's hate is unjustified. Unjustified points to her being wrong and what Damon did was NOT wrong, this is not the case.

Anyway, I'd rather not debate at this point. the point has made over what 600+ pages at this point?

[–] HP_HG_Fan 8 years ago

it's also the case where Caroline is slut shamed by Elena for sleeping with Damon, and acting as if Caroline's hate is unjustified. Unjustified points to her being wrong and what Damon did was NOT wrong, this is not the case.

That is exactly what prompted me to post my original thread. Rewatching the series, being a bit older and wiser and seeing Elena slut-shame a girl who would still have been traumatised by the whole experience was too much. The way the Elena, the writers, and then the fans treated Caroline for daring to oppose Delena was victim blaming at its finest, and that's not OK. This is why I can't stand shipping wars.

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[–] D_Stormborn 8 years ago

He raped Caroline after she found out what he is and he compelled her. No means NO. Same for the Tri Delt sorority girls and Andie Star. If you take away free will then there is no way to whitewash it.
But that doesn't make him worse than other vampires on the show such as Klaus, Isobel and Kol.

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[–] mymammakat 8 years ago

Caroline jumped in bed with him, her choice, after that they were never shown having sex again.
Andy gave him her phone # and slept with him because she wanted to. He compelled her not to be afraid after they slept together It was made clear that she had feelings for him, albeit, they had a weird relationship.
I noticed that you don't mention Katherine, is that because she didn't rape Stefan?
Also, isn't there such a thing as taking advantage of a 17 year old girl by not telling her the truth, That would be Stefan not telling Elena that he was a ripper before he slept with her. IDK, seems pretty clear, he would have had to compel her not to be afraid if she knew the truth.

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[–] TaylorBruh25 8 years ago

Your Stefan equation doesn't add up to taking advantage of anybody. He didn't take anything from her forcefully. Compulsion equals that though.

[–] HP_HG_Fan 8 years ago

You have a skewed vision of what consent actually entails. This has been done to death and this argument was destroyed on another thread but someone whose mind is under control does not have the capacity to consent. End of.

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[–] ditzymuffin 8 years ago

I'm not even going to bother. It's exhausting. At this point Damon fans are either trolling or being willfully ignorant.

[–] mymammakat 8 years ago

Nope, neither. I just thought that after all the willing disregard for the facts as seen on the show, and repetitive dialogue about things that weren't ever shown on show that there should be a thread entitled "Damon never raped Caroline." Just so that others, currently and in the future, know that this rape gang is not the authority over other viewers and their opinions are not dominant on this forum.

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[–] jordanjanellejoy 8 years ago

+ 1 Ditzy.....

My ass may be dumb, but I ain't no dumbass...

[–] orgine 8 years ago

By the OP's logic, Ian also hates Damon too...

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[–] nunyabiznesskay 8 years ago

1. Who hates Ian?
2. If people are asking at this point they can't be new
3. Damon is Fictional so it doesn't really matter either way
4. The show is done filming, so it doesn't really matter either way, nothing to sway now.
5. Ian did say he did, plus Damon has tortured, dismembered, maimed, and killed people, would it be that much of a leap to rape, especially if it was a psychological game he was playing?

Ultimately If Damon didn't do it, it would kind of suck, but everything, specifically the actor that plays him, said it's true, now unless he's trolling everyone... I would have to lean that way, at least for another 6 weeks or so, until the show disappears. (I'm watching the first 3 episodes and the last 3, everything else at this point is filler)

[–] mymammakat 8 years ago

1. Not me.
2.True.
3.Yes
4. Yes.
5 Yes.
Thanks for your opinion.

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[–] DeeDee0331 8 years ago

The victims are speaking out against rape culture. They are speaking out about the fact that no one realizes what it was was rape. And because people like you act like it's no big deal to make a show where character rape and then pretend it didn't happen. Or turn them into heros

[–] kadeskiss 8 years ago

I agree 100 percent. Unless the writers, or the character state it. It didn't happen . And I no longer even like Damon .

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[–] mymammakat 8 years ago

Thank you.

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