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Man how much election fraud does this amount to at this point?


https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/new-prominent-democrat-arrested-in-shocking-mail-in-ballot-scheme-mstef/

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So a man was arrested for voter fraud, and what's your point? That shows that there are protections against it. That it is investigated.

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Hahahahahahahaha!!!!

You can't be serious. You're probably a plant to make Democrats look stupid. Hint: They don't need your help.

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Explain to me how this is evidence that the US election of 2020 was fraudulent.

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Where there's smoke, there's fire. Anyone who thinks this is an isolated incident has bats in their belfry.

Murderers and rapists, etc., get away with their crimes for lack of "evidence". Just because there's no evidence, for whatever reason, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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>Where there's smoke, there's fire. Anyone who thinks this is an isolated incident has bats in their belfry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-67630574

Okay does this mean the Uk election of 2019 was fraudulent?

>Murderers and rapists, etc., get away with their crimes for lack of "evidence". Just because there's no evidence, for whatever reason, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

And that there's no evidence, and plenty of evidence that the allegations about the 2020 election were wrong means there's no good reason to assume it did (at any meaningful scale beyond any election in the west)

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If half of what happened in the 2020 election and Trump won, you'd be screaming "election fraud!". You know it and don't bother asking me what happened. I'm not typing a novel, here. Google away and read things other than from the left.

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>If half of what happened in the 2020 election and Trump won, you'd be screaming "election fraud!".

No I wouldn't.

You didn't answer my question: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-67630574

Okay does this mean the Uk election of 2019 was fraudulent?

>You know it and don't bother asking me what happened. I'm not typing a novel, here. Google away and read things other than from the left.

None of this is evidence that there was widespread electoral fraud in the 2020 election.

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Seek, and you shall find.

P.S. I know nothing about UK elections.

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>Seek, and you shall find.

You want me to develop a confirmation bias and assume that the US election of 2020 was fraudulent and specifically only read partisan claims from right-wing sources that claim it was?

>P.S. I know nothing about UK elections.

But by your logic, "there's no smoke without fire" someone being prosecuted for voter fraud means that obviously it happened on a greater scale.

So if this low-level example of voter fraud for a different election in the USA somehow proves the US election of 2020 was mired in fraud, then by your logic, this example from the UK must also prove the UK election of 2019 was mired in fraud. I am simply using your reasoning against you. Are you going to be consistent?

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You have a very low understanding of logic. Logic is not gospel or fact. If in fact an election was fraudulent and is in fact supported by logic, another non-fraudulent election, even if the fraud theory was supported logically, it still was not fraudulent. Logic is merely a device to help in determination and/or theorization.

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There's no evidence that the election was fraudulent. This is still a claim unsupported by any evidence. Your argument here is that "well, there are sporadic cases of election fraud across many different elections that we do punish so therefore that must mean the election of 2020 was fraudulent". It's completely baseless, broken reasoning. The USA is a huge country with lots of local and state elections, alongside primaries and special elections and federal elections. There are over 300 million people in it. The likelihood that there would be no attempts at fraud is very unlikely indeed (and many people have been jailed for attempting fraud for Republicans too). It also happens in the UK, as I've shown an example of to you.

But there is no evidence that the election of 2020 had directed, comprehensive and large enough fraud to swing the election.

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Okay, let's see if you actually have anything remotely like an open mind: Do you think it is at all possible that the election was in fact fraudulent? Any possibility at all?

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No, I don't. The Trump campaign tried, and utterly failed. They got nowhere. They were shut down by Republican and Democrat judges. It's a baseless conspiracy theory.

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Okay. Keep eagerly lapping up all that your leftist gods feed you. I was mistaken in thinking you could be a free thinker.

P.S. I, on the other hand admit that it is possible that the election wasn't fraudulent.

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Are Republican lawyers somehow of the left now?

>I was mistaken in thinking you could be a free thinker.

I also think that it's very unlikely that 9/11 was a false flag. Or random school shootings. That's about the level of credibility the 2020 election fraud theories rise to.

>P.S. I, on the other hand admit that it is possible that the election wasn't fraudulent.

Yet presumably, on no evidence, you believe that it was fraudulent.

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There is evidence as the OP shows one example, but you're completely close minded.

P.S. There are people who say they're Republicans, Democrats, Christians, Jews, etc., who are not.

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>There is evidence as the OP shows one example, but you're completely close minded.

It's as much "evidence" of electoral fraud as my example from the UK was "evidence" that the 2019 election was fraudulent. Different election, different scales, and notably - the people were actually arrested indicating that there are procedures that catch people.

No-one is claiming that people don't try it on, the USA is a massive country - of course there will be incidents like this, but the claim for 2020 is that it was a deliberate campaign of directed fraud sponsored by the Democrat party. And it is completely utterly baseless.

>P.S. There are people who say they're Republicans, Democrats, Christians, Jews, etc., who are not.

And your evidence that the republican judges who shut the cases claiming fraud down aren't are?

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Carrying this on with a closed minded person is less productive than herding cats. I'm going to go make dinner, but thanks for letting me know you're completely close minded. It will save me a lot of future typing.

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Are people who don't believe the moon landing was faked, or people who don't believe that school shootings are false flags "close-minded"?

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Once in a while I’m able to detect at least a fraction of skepticism in other lefties on this forum.

You have None. Zero. Nada. Zilch.

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Should people just assume that all conspiracies are true?

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Absolutely not, but they should at least be skeptical to some degree. Or question it.

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So we should just assume that every proposed conspiracy theory, despite zero evidence and often completely contradictory nature *might* be true?

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> Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Except when it comes to Donald Trump.
Proof that this guy was caught says it is an isolated incident.
And did you whine so hard when quite a few Republicans
were caught cheating, and more claiming Democratics
cheating when there was none.

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Denial, leftist.

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[–] Skavau (6418) a few seconds ago
So we should just assume that every proposed conspiracy theory, despite zero evidence and often completely contradictory nature *might* be true?

You have a child in a room and have him sit in front of a table with a chocolate bar in front him and you tell him not to touch it.

You lock the door and come back an hour later and noticed the empty wrapper with the chocolate missing and as you lean forward to question him, you smell the chocolate in his breath, you noticed the crumbs on his chest and the chocolate smear around his mouth.

You ask him if he ate the chocolate and his answer is: No, YOU did.

- There are no cameras.
- The windows are sealed.
- There are no eyewitnesses that saw him eat it.
- There is no one else around except you and him.

Where is the evidence that he ate the chocolate bar?

On the following week, if someone else were to ask you to provide the evidence that he ate it, what will you provide them?

If you can’t provide the evidence than why should they not believe that the child is telling the truth and that you are the liar?

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For this analogy to work, you would have to actually have some actual evidence of people having "eat the chocolate bar" for things you claimed. You have none, you talk unrelenting constant bullshit and make absurd allegations

Where is your evidence that Lady Gaga is a Jew? Where is your evidence for widespread, directed election fraud in the US election 2020? Where is your evidence that Obamacare is a front for child trafficking? You have none.

And on top of that, you are a nasty little fascist who wants to murder political opponents and subjugate LGBT people into second-class citizens.

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Apparently, the analogy went over your head. LMAO

Btw, every time you beg others for proof/evidence, you should reference that analogy since you denied the evidence.

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>Apparently, the analogy went over your head. LMAO

No - I understood the analogy perfectly, you've failed to provide any evidence that anyone has been caught with chocolate around their mouth next to any empty wrapper.

Where is your evidence that Lady Gaga is a Jew? Where is your evidence for widespread, directed election fraud in the US election 2020? Where is your evidence that Obamacare is a front for child trafficking? You have none.

And on top of that, you are a nasty little fascist who wants to murder political opponents and subjugate LGBT people into second-class citizens.

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5 will get you 10 that whichever leftist mental midget answered this (I have them on ignore once they show that reason, fact, truth and logic won't sway them) once claimed that there absolutely was no voter fraud but now is attempting to act as if it's nothing?

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Cherry Picker!

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They caught the ONE person who committed voter fraud. There's absolutely no more!! *wink wink*

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i can't wait for the election fraud in november, it's going to comedy at it's very best. big mike obama, the first candidate to get 6000 million votes, and remember don't question it or you're a bigot

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More voter fraud. No surprise considering the amount available from the 2018/2020/2022 elections.

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Show us some of this evidence of fraud from those elections.

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It was all Republican ... so there must be many many more.

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Democrats pretending to be Republicans. aka UniParTy RINOs.

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Can anyone explain how this fraud worked exaclty ?

the only meat in the article is

According to prosecutors, Callaway was nabbed after paying organizers between $30 and $50 to act as intermediaries assisting voters with completing their absentee ballot applications. The individuals would show up at municipal election offices to fill out forms attesting they had each voter’s permission to help that person cast his or her vote. After being given blank absentee ballots, those individuals allegedly turned them over to Callaway and his deputies.

Voters who were affected told investigators that they did not vote in the 2022 election where fraud occurred and added that they never authorized Callaway or anyone else to help them vote. Many of their mail-in votes were counted in those elections

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those darn Russians!

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